afar. the american public sick and tired of all the games going on. and there you, grover norquist, a very bright guy, still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge. it cannot be broken, when many of your own party are now say you know what, it doesn't make sense to just have this irresolute position anymore. >> well, two things. the plenl is ndge is not for li everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasle out of it, shame on him as the "new york sun" said today. i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, whoa, whoa. hang on, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below the belt, grover. >> hey, if you think a commitment is not for as long as as you made it for. the commitment for the pledge as peter king well know whence he signed it is as long as you're in congress, you will rein in spending and reform government, not raise taxes.